Date Created: Apr 10
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So finally the front brakes have cried enough and so have I after getting them worked on every other 6 months so here is the upgrade. In short, rear caliper spaced out and hugging a Mazda RX8 front 323mm disc and the fronts, well they're a little special. Porsche 996 front monobloc 4 pot calipers gripping a Supra 325mm front disc! Bloody huge they are front and rear thank god for big wide wheels. The rear adaptors were bought through a Group Buy on IMOC the front calipers I sourced with the help of a lad on MR2.com called Karl aka scarecrow whose advice was never ending and always useful. So on with the story
The front brake calipers beyond their useful working life and doing their best to kill the discs and pads
which they succeeded with ease. The drivers front would cook the entire wheel to the point I worried the heat would break
other items like the wheel or snap some studs which would be very bad.
I had looked into this upgrade a couple of years ago but never followed it up, in hindsight it would have saved a huge
amount of time and effort not to mention money but you live and learn (eventually). After reading a thread on
MR2.com I decided to take the plunge and Karl
was invaluable in his advice, firstly by explaining the mechanics behind the braking system and the pitfalls of throwing
on any old calipers and secondly providing me with details of where to get the calipers. The exchange rate had moved nicely
back in the UK buyers favour so a pair of calipers from a crashed Carrera 996 were purchased and shipped over the pond.
Once that was done I acquired a front passenger hub from a car that was heading to the scrappy and got some supra discs ordered.
A machinist then made up the required brackets and supplied the caliper mounting bolts too. All I had to do was get the whole
lot bolted together! I think Calum knows every bolt and dent in my car because of the amount of work he's done on it. Again, the
mans a star!
Anyways, parts sourced were
The Porsche calipers are designed for a 315mm dia disc with a thickness of 28mm and while they'd easy take the 325mm dia the
30mm thickness of the supra discs did mean a bit of modifying. Nothing serious but the pad pins needed filing back by 1mm each
to resort the original clearance. Doesn't seem like much but some forums where this conversion has been done on 30mm discs
had found when the discs get hot they can expand enough to touch the pegs, no doubt made easier by the caliper itself expanding
with the same heating action. It's not a chore to file them so it's not worth having to take the whole lot back off afterwards
because you didn't file the pegs.
So we started as expected by removing the front drivers wheel (actually we did passenger side first but no pics taken lol)
we got greeted with the front drivers disc which was looking very marked indeed. You can see multiple outlines of the pads
where they've been cooked onto the disc surface, not good at all
so with the caliper carrier and disc removed the stone guard was eyed with suspicion then removed as the bigger Supra disc
would not fit. Lucky for us the guard was pretty rotten, it pulled apart quite quickly to become a pile of rust on
the workshop floor
which left us with the bare hub to work with
so first the caliper adaptor was fitted to the hub with some Grade 10.9 M12x60mm bolts, I think 65mm's would allow the
locking nuts more purchase so when we strip it down for inspection we'll upgrade the bolts
A test fit of caliper and disc gave us this, note the supra disc fits straight on, mounting holes and centre bore perfect
That's about as good a brake coverage you'll get from a caliper / disc combination,as good as stock on a bigger disc. So
after checking that we undid the hydraulics of the old caliper and found they pretty much bolted straight into the Porsche
unit. My braided hoses are a little on the neat side so a bit of creative modding on the mounting bracket allowed a good fit
however I'm sure it will vary from pipe set to pipe set. Below, see the difference in std to supra disc, not as much as you'd
think but still useful enough
So how does it all look once the wheel is bolted on, does it even clear the caliper?
plenty of space for the spokes and the inside of the wheel rim itself
Now clearly upgrading the fronts and leaving the rears alone would not be the greatest idea in the world so in true fashion the rears were looked at too. Parts needed slighter easier
Now that doesn't look too bad but these are the original discs as far as I can tell, I've never changed them so that's
15 years and 121k miles on them. The next picture tells the story, just look at the rust in the centre and how much
the standard pads / caliper leave unswept on the disc. Sadly the upgrade will leave even more unswept but that's the
drawbacks of using std calipers on bigger discs. Curse you Toyota for that stupid rear handbrake caliper!
Again the stone guard is in for a smacking as the Mazda Rx8 front 323mm will not fit with it in place. So after a bit
of hammering and pulling and swearing, it's dead and on the floor though in much better nick than the front guards managed!
So on with the new rear bracket as sourced from
IMOC BBK Adaptor Group Buy and we get this
and then with the carrier and disc in place looks like
smooth, very smooth. The pic below shows the black coloured spigot ring for the disc to centre it on the hub
and with the wheel fitted
These discs fill the wheel like the OEM stuff and actually makes the 17's look small.